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January 8, 2013 at 1:51 am #9939
Brendan
ModeratorCome on kids, let’s place your bets on today’s lung paint. Currently at 286 at time of posting, I’m hedging mine cautiously at 300+ (so that’s higher then). Check in on the current figure anytime here, and then post it, along with your prediction (+/-).
Good Luck!! 😀
January 8, 2013 at 2:25 am #25416JerryS
ParticipantIll wager 347 in the heart of the city.
January 8, 2013 at 2:43 am #25420Charlie
KeymasterI’m guessing the sun is going to come out and reduce the pollution to 200 by late afternoon.
January 8, 2013 at 6:46 am #25428Brendan
ModeratorCurrently at 246, and in need of participation!!
January 9, 2013 at 5:16 am #25450Charlie
KeymasterQuote:I’m guessing the sun is going to come out and reduce the pollution to 200 by late afternoon.So close!
January 9, 2013 at 6:32 am #25453JerryS
ParticipantStay indoors, when outside have a mask on and please avoid lung cancer at all costs!
January 10, 2013 at 12:46 pm #25486Mr. Klink
ParticipantDid a ride without the mask the other day with levels hovering around 300. Made it about 30k (planned route was about 60k) and called it quits. Blew black boogers for about an hour after and had a hacking cough. Day after fell victim to my first cold of the season. Screw that noise.
January 12, 2013 at 4:48 am #25551Mr. Klink
ParticipantAfter a lengthy discussion over a bowl of noodles, a new air quality rating system has been implemented:
100 – 200: Grey
200 – 300: Beige
300 – 500: Sepia
If conditions have gone ‘sepia tone’ all necessary health precautions must be taken.
January 12, 2013 at 8:55 am #25562Charlie
KeymasterQuote:After a lengthy discussion over a bowl of noodles, a new air quality rating system has been implemented:100 – 200: Grey
200 – 300: Beige
300 – 500: Sepia
I can see the brochures now: “We invite foreign friends to enjoy Chengdu’s romantic, sepia-tone landscape as you sip tea on the Minjiang river bank”
January 12, 2013 at 2:30 pm #255817
ParticipantI just got back in town tonight and it seems noticeably than when I left before Christmas. I’m just glad I’m not in Beijing which hit 755 today! That’s got to be some kind of record.
January 13, 2013 at 4:41 am #25589Rick in China
Participantreported over 900 today in Chinese news 😀 (Beijing)
January 13, 2013 at 4:43 am #25590Brendan
Moderator755 in Beijing!? WTF, that must be like breathing sand!!
It’s been a rough week in Chengdu, consistently up in the 300’s. it’s really been shifting my perspective on remaining here longer term.
Strangely this morning the official figures are riding higher than US Consulate numbers. I’m picturing the appointed ‘adjuster’ asleep at the computer. Pollution’s got them beat tired. 😀
January 13, 2013 at 2:45 pm #25618Brendan
ModeratorQuote:reported over 900 today in Chinese news 😀 (Beijing)How is that even possible!!? Forget sand, that’s gotta be air soup!!
January 14, 2013 at 3:29 am #25626Rick in China
ParticipantIt’s not just Beijing and Chengdu either….
“However, the problem has now become a national phenomenon, rather than one unique to Beijing. On Saturday, levels of PM2.5 passed 300 micrograms per cubic meter in 33 of the 74 cities with systems equipped to monitor the particles.”
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90778/8090803.html
It’s all over the news now, was watching some respiratory illness thing being filmed in Chengdu due to recent super-high levels of pollution, there has to be a major effort and soon or the people will get disturbed..
January 14, 2013 at 3:57 am #25627Charlie
KeymasterAs bad as the pollution is in China right now, I feel great about it being a topic that everyone is discussing, finally. For years it seemed like Chinese people had little awareness of, or interest in, the pollution in their cities.
January 14, 2013 at 3:59 pm #25668Charlie
KeymasterI just published a post on the pollution in Chengdu and tips for minimizing the effects: How to Handle Chengdu’s Pollution Like a Pro
January 14, 2013 at 11:20 pm #25673charles
ParticipantI guess i gotta check pm2.5 before i holla at night… jeez..
January 15, 2013 at 1:40 am #25677Brendan
ModeratorI caught the pollution count at 414 last night. We seem to have been edging up into the high 300’s and beyond over the last week, breaking 400 here and there.
What the hell is going on lately!? Some solid data on this would be mighty interesting, and yet less likely than my winning a lottery without buying a ticket.
January 15, 2013 at 1:58 am #25679Kim Duistermaat
ParticipantI noticed that the government has now also added the 2.5 pm measurements, bringing their levels at par with the US consulate measurements.
Yesterday and today were so bad that I could feel my eyes pricking while bicycling.
We’re using totobobo masks on a daily basis. Yesterday I changed the filter and today, after about 1 hour of cycling in total, it is completely grey already…. We actually do not get a lot of ‘looks’, many people are wearing face covers anyway already.
The Chengdu government should not only be serious about combatting pollution (where is all this coming from?), but also about promoting taking measures at home, at work and in schools. If they want to attract more business to this nice city, they will have to show that they take action. So, have all schools equipped with air purifiers, encourage large foreign investors to sponsor that and equip their own workplaces too, and help local businesses to do the same. I’m sure that the government could strike a nice deal with one of the better producers of these machines, providing them for a good price to its citizens. The same goes for providing cleaner systems for heating homes around Chengdu (and dump the coal and oil heaters), enforcing factories and car owners to have filters on their exhausts, etc.
January 15, 2013 at 2:03 am #25680Charlie
KeymasterQuote:I noticed that the government has now also added the 2.5 pm measurements, bringing their levels at par with the US consulate measurements.I don’t think it’s quite at par, since the Chinese values are still lower than what the US Consulate reports. Also, the Chinese scale goes up to 500 while the US figures report higher values, although that so far hasn’t been an issue for Chengdu.
To answer your question about where the pollution is coming from, I think it’s a combination of heavy industry, coal power plants, and massive construction inside the city. The geographic conditions of Chengdu are poor for clearing pollution since the humidity is high and we’re in a basin at sea level near gigantic mountains.
Quote:So, have all schools equipped with air purifiers, encourage large foreign investors to sponsor that and equip their own workplaces too, and help local businesses to do the same.Unfortunately I think Chengdu is a long way from this, due to the economy of enforcing these measures on a city of 14 million people, the vast majority of which are not of great economic means. One day though, hopefully.
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